Dan 4:35 All the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing; He does according to His will in the army of heaven And among the inhabitants of the earth. No one can restrain His hand Or say to Him,”What have You done?” NKJV
Is 46:10-11 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: 11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it. (KJV)
Lam 3:37 Who is he that saith, and it cometh to pass, when the Lord commandeth it not? (KJV)
Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: (KJV)
Eph 3:11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord: (KJV)
Not a change of plan because He didn’t know if Adam would sin. Not a second plan because His 1st plan for man to live forever was stopped by men. This was His eternal purpose. He does all things according to His own will! He does all that He pleases; not some of it, not that He could do it, but chooses not to. He does it!
The Jehovah of the Bible Predestinated all things that come to pass.
Job 23:13-14 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth. 14 For he performeth the thing that is appointed for me: and many such things are with him. (KJV)
Prov 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was. (KJV)
Jer 10:23LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
Prov 16:9 A man’s heart deviseth his way: but the LORD directeth his steps.
Pro_20:24 A man’s steps are from the LORD; how then can man understand his way?
Psa_37:23 The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.
Php_2:13 for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.
Ps 105:25 He turned their heart to hate his people, to deal subtilly with his servants. (KJV)
Prov 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. (KJV)
1 Sam 16:14-15 Now the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD terrorized him. 15 Saul’s servants then said to him, “Behold now, an evil spirit from God is terrorizing you. NAS
1 Sam 18:10-12 Now it came about on the next day that an evil spirit from God came mightily upon Saul, and he raved in the midst of the house, while David was playing the harp with his hand, as usual; and a spear was in Saul’s hand. 11 And Saul hurled the spear for he thought, “I will pin David to the wall.” But David escaped from his presence twice. 12 Now Saul was afraid of David, for the LORD was with him but had departed from Saul.
Is 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? (KJV)
1 Sam 2:25But they would not listen to the voice of their father, for the LORD desired to put them to death.NAS
1 Sam 2:25 Nevertheless they did not heed the voice of their father, because the LORD desired to kill them. NKJV
1 Sam 16:14 Now the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD terrorized him. 15 Saul’s servants then said to him, “Behold now, an evil spirit from God is terrorizing you. NAS
1 Sam 18:10 Now it came about on the next day that an evil spirit from God came mightily upon Saul, and he raved in the midst of the house, …
Psa 78:49 He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them.
Deut 2:30 But Sihon king of Heshbon would not let us pass by him: for the LORD thy God hardened his spirit, and made his heart obstinate, that he might deliver him into thy hand, as appeareth this day. (KJV)
Num 23:19 God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it? 20 Behold, I received a command to bless: he has blessed, and I cannot revoke it.
God predestines man to act and yet holds him responsible
Gen 50:20 But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, NKJV
Prov 16:33 The lot is cast into the lap, But its every decision is from the LORD. NKJV
Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Peter 2:8 They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed. NKJV
Acts 4:28 For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done. (KJV)
Acts 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain: (KJV)
Lu 22:22 And truly the Son of man goeth, as it was determined: but woe unto that man by whom he is betrayed!
Even though God Predestined it to be done by Judas, yet man is still held accountable for his own selfish desires because he does not feel forced to do it. God moves man’s will in a way that He does not force a man to go against his will. We do not expeience predestination therefore can not excuse our actions or blame God because of it. God does as He pleases and though we may not understand, He is just in all He does.
Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
Who believes? Only those ordained to!
Acts 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. (KJV)
2Tim 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, (KJV)
John 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
Mar 4:11 And he said to them, “To you has been given the secret of the kingdom of God, but for those outside everything is in parables, 12 so that “they may indeed see but not perceive, and may indeed hear but not understand, lest they should turn and be forgiven.”
Is 6:10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed. (KJV)
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them. (KJV)
Heb 12:17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. (KJV)
2Ti 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
These don’t sound like free will because the Lord causes and gives man ability to believe and obey
Jeremiah 24:7 And I will give them a heart to know me, that I am the Lord: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God: for they shall return unto me with their whole heart.
Deu 30:6 And the LORD your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your offspring, so that you will love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live. ESV
Eze 36:12 Yea, I will cause men to walk upon you, even my people Israel; and they shall possess thee, and thou shalt be their inheritance, and thou shalt no more henceforth bereave them of men.
Eze 36:26 And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules. ESV
Eze 36:36 Then the heathen that are left round about you shall know that I the LORD build the ruined places, and plant that that was desolate: I the LORD have spoken it, and I will do it. 37 Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will yet for this be enquired of by the house of Israel, to do it for them; I will increase them with men like a flock.
John 3:27 John answered and said, “A man can receive nothing unless it has been given to him from heaven.
John 5:21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will .
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. (KJV)
John 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father. (KJV)
Mat_13:11 And he answered them, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.
Luk 8:10 he said, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of God, but for others they are in parables, so that ‘seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand.’
2Thes 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (KJV)
Matt 19:25-26 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? 26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
1Cor 2:7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: (KJV)
The whole gospel plan that is preached was predestined before the world began. It was not an after thought due to Adam or anyone’s sin. The whole glorious gospel of redeeming love was ordained before the world. God knows the end from the beginning, there is nothing hid from Him because He has brought it to pass just as He wanted. It can not be that God looks into the future to see what one does then makes things happen because His new action would still change the future and someone else’s actions as a result. It is clear He causes what occurs. This is the Jehovah of the Bible. Is this the God you Worship?
The whole passage is great look at how god goes back and forth. You are dead, no have him pray for you and you will live, etc. Its all in the plan of God. He was never dead. But the figure of speech is, look you could be in jeopardy of death for what you are about to do.
And God kept him from it not his won will.
But yes he went along with it. So it is always both. God works through our will. So God determines it, then we decide it. Its god plan not some accident of man’s determining.
Gen 20:3 But God came to Abimelech in a dream by night and said to him, “Behold, you are a dead man because of the woman whom you have taken, for she is a man’s wife.”
4 Now Abimelech had not approached her. So he said, “Lord, will you kill an innocent people?
5 Did he not himself say to me, ‘She is my sister’? And she herself said, ‘He is my brother.’ In the integrity of my heart and the innocence of my hands I have done this.”
6 Then God said to him in the dream, “Yes, I know that you have done this in the integrity of your heart, and it was I who kept you from sinning against me. Therefore I did not let you touch her.
7 Now then, return the man’s wife, for he is a prophet, so that he will pray for you, and you shall live. But if you do not return her, know that you shall surely die, you and all who are yours.”
Rom 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.
17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
Rom 8:29-30 29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. 30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, (KJV)
What is so amazing is the play on words. The people did not seek God, they can’t, they are blind in sin. So how did they find if they did not seek. God did it. God gave them the ability. Who did it? I have shown Myself to those who did not ask.
Rom 10:20 Then Isaiah is so bold as to say, “I have been found by those who did not seek me; I have shown myself to those who did not ask for me.”
John 2:23-24 Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did. 24 But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men. So for a man to believe in Jesus is not all it takes; He must be one predestined and chosen by the Father, whose name is already written in the book of life. It is all of God and all praise and glory goes to Him for His marvellous work of designing the plan and having mercy on some. Due to adam’s fall all men deserved hell. He did not have to save any. He chose them for his own purpose and gave them faith to believe; that all might see the greatest of all love in saving ones who didn’t deserve it, by His own son’s sacrifice.
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. (KJV)
Rev 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. (KJV)
Deut 4:2 You shall not add to the word which I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. NKJV
Dt 29:4 Your eyes have seen all that the Lord did in Egypt to Pharaoh, to all his officials and to all his land. With your own eyes you saw those great trials, those miraculous signs and great wonders. But to this day the Lord has not given you a mind that understands or eyes that see or ears that hear.
Ps 139:4 For there is not a word on my tongue, But behold, O LORD, You know it altogether. 5 You have hedged me behind and before, And laid Your hand upon me. 6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; It is high, I cannot attain it.
7 Where can I go from Your Spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? 8 If I ascend into heaven, You are there; If I make my bed in hell, behold, You are there. 9 If I take the wings of the morning, And dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, 10 Even there Your hand shall lead me, And Your right hand shall hold me. 11 If I say, “Surely the darkness shall fall on me,” Even the night shall be light about me; 12 Indeed, the darkness shall not hide from You, But the night shines as the day; The darkness and the light are both alike to You.
13 For You formed my inward parts;You covered me in my mother’s womb. 14 I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Marvelous are Your works, And that my soul knows very well. 15 My frame was not hidden from You,When I was made in secret, And skillfully wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. 16 Your eyes saw my substance, being yet unformed. And in Your book they all were written, The days fashioned for me, When as yet there were none of them. NKJV
Can you reconcile the fact that everyone generally agrees that in heaven there will be no sin. Now does this mean that in our glory we have been deprived of this “freewill”? I don’t think so. Is man’s will free in heaven? And yet he cannot sin. So here fallen man, though his will is free it is limited so that until God changes his nature He is selfish and unwilling to seek God.
The kind of “freedom” this person is claiming to exist just does not exist. In heaven, no one will possess the freewill to sin. If we don’t have this sort of freewill in heaven, why should anyone claim we have it now on earth? Is this “freewill” the Arminian claims we possess now somehow stripped from us in Heaven, where we have been perfected, or is it more plausible we never possessed this Arminian concept of “freewill” in the first place?
John 17:2 as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him.